Wednesday, May 05, 2010
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Has a major league baseball team ever started a game with a lineup that's in alphabetical order from 1 to 9? I know managers have done things like pick names out of a hat to make the lineup, but I wonder if anyone's done an alphabetical one. It would be cooler, of course, if it happened randomly. Anybody know?
[Also, you can get EIGHT seats across in the bleachers right now for the Sunday night Yanks-Sox game on redsox.com.]
[Also, you can get EIGHT seats across in the bleachers right now for the Sunday night Yanks-Sox game on redsox.com.]
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There have been ~391,000 games played since 1876. With two lineups per game.
Starting from the leadoff hitter, if you assume that there is a 50/50 chance of each subsequent player's name starting with a letter later in the alphabet then this resembles a random walk problem. Which would just mean that the chance of it happening would be 1 to something on the order of 2^8. Just plugging that in and assuming lineups are randomly selected there would be ~30 instances of that. But the probability isn't consistently 50/50 as you go to the next player in the lineup though, and managers typically use the same lineup multiple times, so if you lower the chances of getting a later name in the alphabet to like 33% and assume that managers use the same lineups 50 times you would expect it to have happened ~2 times!
I don't know how realistic any of these assumptions are, and the number times the same lineup gets used is probably very conservative, but I'm surprised that it isn't overwhelmingly likely. I wouldn't want to try to find an example.
Starting from the leadoff hitter, if you assume that there is a 50/50 chance of each subsequent player's name starting with a letter later in the alphabet then this resembles a random walk problem. Which would just mean that the chance of it happening would be 1 to something on the order of 2^8. Just plugging that in and assuming lineups are randomly selected there would be ~30 instances of that. But the probability isn't consistently 50/50 as you go to the next player in the lineup though, and managers typically use the same lineup multiple times, so if you lower the chances of getting a later name in the alphabet to like 33% and assume that managers use the same lineups 50 times you would expect it to have happened ~2 times!
I don't know how realistic any of these assumptions are, and the number times the same lineup gets used is probably very conservative, but I'm surprised that it isn't overwhelmingly likely. I wouldn't want to try to find an example.
Thanks for the input. Yes mathematically there's a very slim chance of this. I really thought someone would have done it on purpose at some point.
If no one can find documented evidence after a while, I should have a contest to see if anyone can find one by going through boxscores. If we think of an NL (or AL pre-73) team with an A leadoff guy and check games where a Y/Z was pitching, that would be a start.
If no one can find documented evidence after a while, I should have a contest to see if anyone can find one by going through boxscores. If we think of an NL (or AL pre-73) team with an A leadoff guy and check games where a Y/Z was pitching, that would be a start.
There are some Early Wynn starts that are close. From when they had Aparicio at the top of the order. Check this one out.
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